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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
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Posted - 2013.02.10 23:53:00 -
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Although I agree with the OP I think the word that applies is precedent. I do not believe there will be a refund.
I will train my last couple skills for the Orca within 5 days. I have no need for mining barge V, it is not the way I will use it. But it is what it is. My suggestions to CCP would be however:
1) Announce these changes as soon as you know you are making them.
2) Give realistic timelines for these changes instead of stuff like, "ZOMG, train BCV noa!" in December then wait for the Summer to make the change.
3) Realize that there is an opportunity cost for your decision and make the non-required skills somewhat useful. I don't want a refund, I want utility. Such as Mining Barge is no longer a prerequisite, but give a bonus for having trained it on Orcas. Nothing says a bonus for a ship has to be a prerequisite.
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
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Posted - 2013.02.11 00:08:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Nexus Day wrote:2) Give realistic timelines for these changes instead of stuff like, "ZOMG, train BCV noa!" in December then wait for the Summer to make the change. The BC changes were announced long before December. As for the rest of these changes, they're simply changing requirements, not rewriting skills, so there's no real need to reimburse or whatever; the skills remain and you can still lfy everything you were able to fly before.
Agreed. My point was CCP originally expressed that the BC changes would take effect in January thereby causing people to use December, all of December, to train up BCV.
The announcement for the Orcas happened late imo. I didn't hear about the change until very recently and it looks like it will take effect on the 19th.
Therefore comments 1 & 2.
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
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Posted - 2013.02.13 00:33:00 -
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So everyone take their **** off the table.
Before you train a skill you have an opportunity. At that moment you can train any skill that you have the prerequisite for. Agreed?
The second you begin training a skill you start incurring an opportunity cost. Mainly that the time you spend training that skill can now no longer be used to train another skill. Are we still on the same page?
Where people diverge is the perceived benefit received for the cost. This can be based upon a million different factors. I hope we can all agree that we are individuals. Given this it is very unlikely CCP can make a decision that will please everyone. I accept this.
But at the same time I would like CCP to recognize that an opportunity cost was incurred. And as part of that recognition I would like them to give everyone, future and past, who trains mining barge V a benefit if they also pilot an Orca, such as a ship ability tied to the skill even though it is not going to be a prerequisite. In that way future and past both gain utility from the opportunity cost.
Full disclosure: I am 2 days away from my Orca and I have no intention of using it for mining.
This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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